Ep 401 – Weird Nutty Mormon History

Written by on September 17, 2017

How many Mormon Priesthood leaders does it take to rob a train? Which LDS prophet was poisoned a few days after attending a Bohemian Club in San Fransisco? Kenneth Lines has found a lot of nutty things in Mormon History. Just nutty, I tell ya. And he talks about a lot of them with Glenn, Bob, and John Hamer. And the nuttiest part is that you get to listen.

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  1. Jason Anderson   On   September 18, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    Great episode! …the ellipsis in church manuals have always kinda bugged me. One time, I innocently enough joked in some Sunday school class attended by investigators, that I wondered what information they didn’t want us to hear by omitting part of a prophet’s quote. The teacher got visibly bothered and went on a 5 minute lecture about how the manuals were inspired and any information left out was only for clarity and the brethren wouldn’t ever mislead. Knowing what i know now, I think the teacher knew the material cut out was probably very damaging to tender testimonies.

  2. Bliss Doubt   On   September 19, 2017 at 8:51 am

    Love this edition of Infants. All of the sloppy text replacements with ellipses is kind of like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa. Getting rid of so much that was once, and some of it very recently, so fascinating and wonderful, is sad and shortsighted. If Mormon leaders would hang onto the magic, embrace and discover their theology of Heavenly Mother, simply apologize for past racism, bring back in full, unabashed, unapologetic force the doctrine of progression to you-know-whathood, the faith would still be growing instead of losing its best people and spiraling down into the most boring and repetitive version of mainstream protestantism ever. That rascal Joseph Smith left some pearls which are not being thrown before swine. They are being thrown in the trash.
    Oh yeah, one thing. The polygamy. I understand the difficulty of grappling with that doctrine, especially when it’s in the company of persnickety piety regarding human sexual behavior. There is something I never hear said in podcast discussions of it. The discussions go something like this: “Polyandry. Do you know what that is? It’s about Joseph Smith marrying women who were already married to other men”. What is never said is that polyandry is when one woman has plural husbands. If that one little truth starts to be stated, every time the subject comes up, the discussion will change.

  3. Ophanim   On   September 19, 2017 at 5:09 pm

    Ken do you have the reference for the quote on celestial marriage or eternal marriage is essential for exaltation? I found this one by brigham young, “The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, p. 269, August 19, 1866. Brian Hales claims there is no quote or doctrine ever taught which says that only polygamists will be exalted to highest degree or glory.

  4. phallicmin   On   September 20, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    Some more details on Min’s erect penis being edited out of the POGP:
    Min’s penis was actually removed from the POGP from 1878 until 1976. Interestingly, the Egyptologist Theodule Deveria translated Facsimile no. 2 and his translation was published in 1861 and again in 1873. The translation pointed out the erect penis. Then, low and behold, the next publication of the POGP in 1878 had the penis edited out. Lots of details and photos of each edition of Facsimile no. 2 can be found here – http://www.mormonthink.com/files/The%20Book%20of%20Abraham%20Criticisms%20Defenses%20and%20Implications.pdf (see pages 52-58).

  5. Mary   On   September 21, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    My extended family in Southern Utah still practices using a divining rod for “well witchin” and also as a way to get yes or no questions answered. It was explained to me as being a gift given to an ancestor for being a very early convert, and each generation is supposed to get a man who can find water this way. The current holder of this gift is very old but will still come to your property and help you find a place for a well. A fairly skeptical family member just built a house and had their well located that way! Some things just can’t be ruined by correlation no matter how hard it tries 🙂

  6. Cory   On   August 16, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    I’m late in listening to this. In re all male dancing, my favorite story comes from the 1870’s Logan Temple sawmill located up Temple Fork in Logan Canyon. “Dancing was a very popular from of recreation at the camp, and Morris supervised the frequent stag dances. Bows of pink ribbon were tied on the arms of half of the men, indicating that they were acting as ladies. Participation in the dances and devotions was compulsory. Anyone who failed to enter into the fun was seized unceremoniously by the big foreman, Joe Morris, and pulled onto the floor with a meryr whirl that would set the company laughing, and the unlucky victim would yield in sheer self defense to a happier mood,” Olsen, Nolan P. ‘Logan Temple: The First 100 Years,’ Keith Watkins Printing, Providence, Utah, 1978, p. 68.

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