Ep 131 – Meet The Mormons

Written by on November 23, 2014

Scott, Randy, Matt, Bob and Alison review the smash hit “Meet the Mormons,” the Box Office Phenomenon that sent gentile-America scrambling to the baptismal fonts.  In frenzied.  Ecstatic.  Droves.  Cuz you know… at an impressive run-time of 78 min, it was just that good.
And this IoT review is clearly TWICE as good.  Cuz, you know, at an even more impressive run-time of 134 min… well, ok… so we like to talk.

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  1. Matthew Vernon   On   November 23, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    Great episode. My impressions of this film:
    I don’t think that the Brethren sat down and said, “Let’s show everyone how diverse we are.” I think they know we are mostly white CPAs and lawyers and housewives, and they know everyone else knows it, but they genuinely wanted to show that’s not ALL we are. What the church wants more than anything is to be accepted by the world, and the last thing they want is for people to get an impression that they don’t fit the mold.
    That being said, there is the (somewhat dissonant) question of “who was the movie made for?” Personally I agree it was made for members, but at the same time the members were told it was made for non-members, to spread the message to the world that we are all normal and have something great and everyone should come check it out. The target audience is being told they are not the target audience, hence everyone’s confusion. It’s just like 19-year-olds going on missions, it’s all about solidifying the missionary’s testimony, any converts who actually remain active are just icing on the cake.

  2. Orrin Dayne   On   November 24, 2014 at 4:53 am

    Not surprising that the father of the Mormon Cred scale could go off on the 5-star rating system, including how there is no zero-star rating as evidenced on Netflix.

    • Bob Caswell   On   November 24, 2014 at 5:54 am

      If you hover over just one-star on Netflix, it literally gives you a pop up that says, “this means you hated this movie.” What’s below hate?
      And Netflix didn’t invent the 5-star scale or do anything unique here. Most critics don’t use a zero on their scales… (just like most professors don’t ever give a zero grade to a paper turned in).
      Regardless, no one on the panel sold me on how they HATED this movie. What I saw with Randy and Scott’s 1-star ratings was just a reflection of their annoyance at the Church more so than a movie deserving that low of a rating. It almost comes across like they want it to be a worse movie than it really is… But the Church and its disciples have done much worse with film. 🙂

      • Orrin Dayne   On   November 24, 2014 at 8:01 pm

        I figured you (as the one who was big on the numeric cred scale) would be the one to defend the sanctity of the movie star system and what it represents, as opposed to Randy & Scott who are just going with a gut feeling with no regard for the internal consistency of the system itself. It was great stuff seeing your frustration with some of the rankings.
        Yes, I agree with you that there are far-worse films, which would preclude a 1-star rating (whether among all films, documentaries, or church films).

  3. Orrin Dayne   On   November 24, 2014 at 5:04 am

    This was definitely for Mormons, and they marketed it brilliantly. If they released it on DVD, there is no way they would’ve reached as many members as they did in the theatres. Can you imagine them trying to push DVD sales over the pulpit? It just wouldn’t happen. So they, at best, would have had to just offer it as part of the largely unwatched catalog of church media products.
    By convincing members that their attendance would keep it in the theatres longer, it became a service project and far more members saw it, despite the fact they paid far more for it than the DVD would have cost.

  4. darth_bill   On   November 24, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    Was it Matt that adopted some “brown babies”? My wife and I adopted 3 (black and hispanic). That’s really all I have to add other than I found this podcast very enjoyable.

  5. Levi Phillips   On   November 24, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    So glad you closed the episode before Bob could give his rating, relegating him to the “post-episode” banter! HAHAHA

  6. Erica   On   November 24, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    As the white mother of a biracial son who was adopted by his white stepfather, I share Matt’s rage.
    Comparing being only half white to a handicap if super fucking offensive.

    • Matt   On   November 25, 2014 at 6:47 pm

      Amen! I got a little worked up there didn’t I? But I generally do when it comes to my daughter who we happened to adopt. You get sensitive after 17 years of questions like, who’s her real mom/dad or does she know she’s adopted? Add to that the naïveté and insensitivity of people who don’t live with race issues everyday and I get pretty worked up.

  7. Pink-lead   On   November 25, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Didn’t you listen to Elder Holland? The ratings are off the charts! See the attached .gif. Meet the Mormons who are of the world but not OF the world. We’re just like you, but not like you. Red carpet, Mormon celebs. Can’t you feel it? That’s not emotion, it’s the Spirit.

  8. Mckay   On   November 26, 2014 at 3:21 am

    Just for the record missionaries I went on my mission to Zimbabwe and went to the Johannesburg South Africa MTC (2006) and was sent my name badges overnight in the mail a few days before my departure date. Not really sure why that was the case though.

  9. Daniel Lima   On   November 29, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    Randy said that he “hates the Warens ” . They might be ghost con artists , but she really believes this shit. I met Lauren Waren at the rehab center I worked at , I personally worked on her and we had many interactions . I never asked her anything about the paranormal , but plenty of other people did. She sounded like she really was being sincere about believing this stuff . A Catholic priest would pop in a couple of times a week. It was weird . But she was a very sweet and polite old lady . Not a bitch at all .

    • Randy_Snyder   On   December 1, 2014 at 6:06 pm

      Did I call her a bitch? When I said I loathe the Warrens, I should have said I loathe everything they did and stood for regarding their “ghost hunting” empire. They were not above lying gratuitously to support their image and industry and perpetuated a belief in something that is not entirely innocuous. Take, for example, a couple w a child suffering from schizophrenia. If they are disciples of the Warrens they will likely spend a lot of money chasing after silly and obviously useless remedies instead of getting the child the help he or she needs. This is aside from the numerous movies made based on the Warrens’ con that are 100% fiction that have become so popular and start with the claim “Based on actual events” that just grates on my nerves and sensibilities.
      But to speak about your first-hand experience, Steven Novella did visit them for several hours attempting to investigate their evidence. They of course stone-walled his request for their evidence but his assessment was they were true-believers and very polite. So please don’t mistake my hyperbolic reaction to the Warrens for me thinking they were evil to the core. A complete asshole and total bitch. I’m sure they were good neighbors, loving parents and good friends.

  10. Mike B.   On   November 30, 2014 at 2:23 am

    Nice work, guys! I really enjoyed this discussion and thanks to all of you, I do not need to waste my time seeing the movie now. You all ‘took one for the team’ because many of us listeners, like myself, have zero interest in watching Mo-propoganda, let alone giving another dime to the corporation.
    One quick thought about intended audience. The LDS Church will claim whatever they find is the ‘net positive’ result and make it sound like that was the plan all along. Reactive anachronistic claims is what they are all about. First, it was for the members, then the general public, then the members, then not a missionary tool, but, is a missionary tool. The ambiguity gives them something to land on in the future. However, like all things Mormon, inoculating members through confirmation bias is the end game.

  11. Jim   On   December 11, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    I don’t get it. Trying to decide what to attribute accomplishments and deeds of others to… It comes off shallow and uninformed. I am far from a Mormon apologist, but you guys can do better than this. Ugh.

  12. Francine Johnson McGee   On   October 18, 2015 at 9:45 am

    I have to give you guys a lot of cred for being able to watch the movie. I made it through 4:31, before the sappy blond, and then the black bishop made me queasy. I’m proud of you guys, and thankful I don’t have to watch it. Did they REALLY think anyone but TV’s would believe it?

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