Ep 165 – Hobbit Gospel Truths

Written by on March 18, 2015

Glenn shares a blog written by a believing member all about the AWESOME parallels between “Lord of the Rings” and the Mormon Gospel.
Spoiler alert: there are parallels. And they are AWESOME.
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  1. Thomas Moore   On   March 18, 2015 at 8:06 am

    I had to laugh at myself because of how angry, mad and stupid I got reading the silly blog. Thanks Glenn for putting it in true perspective.
    Because I’m such a fan of Tolkien, I found this “blog” one of the most offensive things. Imagine if a Satanist had taken a C.S. Lewis book to justify Anton LaVey’s writings and church?. Tolkien was a devout Catholic who felt great guilt for even writing the Silmarillion. He was anti-industrialist and was pro-agrarian. He however would of loved stuff like the Deseret Alphabet, The Nauvoo Temple Star, Moon, Sun Stones, The whole history and archetypes found in the BoM; although I don’t think he’d like the ending–especially the Jaredite part??? He would adore the instruments and magic articles though; the magic stones, the Liahona, the breast plate, the urim and thummin.

  2. Lane Sawyer   On   March 18, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    Glenn, your reading of that blog was just fantastic. I was laughing the whole time!
    The thing that surprised me most is that the blogger pulled quotes from the MOVIES! She graduated with a degree in English and she’s choosing the LotR movies over the books??? Seriously??
    That’s not to say the movies aren’t good, because they absolutely are. But I just had to chuckle when she separated the Hobbit into two different sections (and it would’ve been three had the third movie been out by then).

    • Glenn   On   March 18, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      I had the same thought when I saw she was quoting Tauriel, who was not in the book but invented just for the movies. The very very bad, way-too-full-of-epic-pomp movies.

  3. MormonDubs   On   March 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    I love the variety of background music you used throughout. Particularly the Harry Potter theme between minutes 10 and 11. And now that I’m typing this out, it cracked me up more than it probably should have. Oh, well! Great mini-sode!

  4. Homsar   On   March 18, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Uggghhhh soooo much cringe. Cringe because I too used to play the find the gospel themes in your favorite movies game. Ten years ago, this blog could have been written by me only about Star Wars.
    I liked the Game of Thrones music. I want to see some TBM try to pull out gospel themes from that epic fiction. Of course, no TBM would probably admit to watching it.

  5. Orrin Dayne   On   March 18, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    You gotta love the way the Church and its members coopt mankind’s values in whatever form they occur and label them as gospel values–claiming ownership of them. It reminded me of the cultural imperialism discussed in prior episodes (e.g., the Japanese allegedly being among the descendants of the lost 10 tribes, how Japanese temples allegedly included Mosiac law elements, etc).

    • Ahab   On   March 19, 2015 at 11:08 am

      I’ve met fundamentalists who claimed that human rights, democracy, etc. were Christian values, despite evidence to the contrary. It makes me want to scream.

  6. Uncle Ralph   On   March 20, 2015 at 3:26 am

    An apt comparison, I must say, though to me Tolkien’s stuff has always been soggy tinder (can you say “mindnumbingly dull?”) But who am I? The guy who liked all six Dune chronicles? And even the movie? I have never found my way into the GAD (Great American Demographic) and, at this point, probably never will.

  7. Complaints Department   On   March 20, 2015 at 5:54 am

    I am surprised she missed the parallel about the policy of saying not to write GAs letters:
    “The way is shut. It was made by those who are (nearly) Dead, and the (nearly) Dead keep it, until the time comes. The way is shut.”
    There are so many it’s totally awesome.

  8. Pink-lead   On   March 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    Sorry, Tolkien purist here…..The films did a few things very well, but there are some tragic abominable moments as well…How dare they mar the canonical text. Screenplay garbage. You SHOULD have qualified the description to say LOTR movies…I was mostly amused by Glenn making shit up at the end…Here’s my contribution, ‘Even the smallest person can take a big dump’

    • Thomas Moore   On   March 20, 2015 at 8:28 pm

      I’m in total agreement with you. If Peter Jackson wanted to “add” stuff to The Hobbit movies he could of added real Tolkien stuff like Tom Bombadil or the old forest or even parts from the Silmarillion. He didn’t have to create parts for Legalos and Galadriel and new character Thuriel. He also could of added the TRUE story of what happened to the dwarves in the Elves cave and how it was their own stubbornness that got them and kept them locked up. He also didn’t have to change the scene(s) of what happens when Bilbo meets Smaug; how vanity and boastfulness ended up to be the ending of Smaug. The blog should of been how she views her life like a movie that is totally different than the books. Then again, The corporation is totally not like their books. Whatever happened to the JoD, Council of Fifty, Patriarchal Priesthood, Stake Seventies Quorums, five points of Fellowship???
      It’s kinda like when I read Forrest Gump by Winston Groom years before the movie. The book was so funny, but it is so, so different than the movie. I enjoy both but I feel sad for those who haven’t been able to read the book. The Shining by Stephen King is so much better than the movie yet the movie is now considered “Classic” horror?!?!

  9. Randy_Snyder   On   March 21, 2015 at 8:51 am

    Find broad points, connect the dots in an intellectual pareidolia fashion, add a healthy dose of proof texting, and you can show that all things can be circumscribed into one great steaming pile of Mormon “truth”.

  10. Leslie North   On   March 26, 2015 at 2:30 am

    You had way too much fun doing this. I’m jealous. You know, a little minisode once a week could be a reading from the standard works (in this awesome style) of your favorite scripture stories. Then we could tell our families that yes, we are reading our scriptures.

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