Ep 2 – Guilt

Written by on August 30, 2012

  1. TheNewCitizen   On   August 31, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    Way to go infants! I loved the discussion on guilt. I only want to add a brief mention of one fact that has always bothered me – when a member rubs in how perfect he/she is in a particular area, how he/she was blessed this way, because he/she has earned the divine disposition. I always felt guilt mixed with anger that I just could not be at that level. May be one of the next discussions will be on anger. I would love to hear more.

  2. sd   On   September 1, 2012 at 2:32 am

    Great discussion! LOVED the different format. This one really stands out above other podcasts I have listened to in the past. Great hosting here. Keep up the good work, guys. You have just become my favorite LDS themed podcast.

  3. Naomi   On   September 2, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    This was great. I liked the format. And I’m already wishing that you had more podcasts available. You guys are going on my watch-list.

  4. Elder Vader   On   September 10, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    This was very enjoyable to listen to. I liked how the different things were spliced together. And I liked the conversation in general. In my mission there were very few bizarro mission rules like sitting down to pee.

  5. Troy   On   September 18, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Tom, you can’t blame people that believe everything they are being taught by the church. I get the impression that you feel that members should just be more open minded to the idea that the leaders might not be who they say they are, but why should any devoted member EVER feel that way when they are continually reinforced over and over again that the church leaders ARE talking to God, ARE receiving revelation directly from God. It is rare to find an active member that supports the church that also believes that the leadership is really nothing more than a bunch of guys doing their best. We are taught in church over and over again that the prophet is LITERALLY a prophet of God and that we disagree with him at our own spiritual peril.
    Can you really blame members for believing what they are taught?
    This falls 100% on the church for insisting on members drinking their kool-aid completely, for their insistence on “buffet” style mormons as being less than the ideal.
    Do you see this?

    • Bob Caswell   On   September 18, 2012 at 11:34 pm

      You definitely make a strong case for putting the blame more at the Church’s feet, but I’m not convinced it’s 100%. If it were, then we wouldn’t have all these new flavors of “spirit of the law” Mormons.

    • Tom Perry   On   September 20, 2012 at 7:15 pm

      I see what you are saying. What I was saying was that I don’t believe that 100% of the blame falls on the church. The reason I say this is there are many, many individuals in the church that refuse to allow the literal beliefs in the church to dictate how they live their lives. The majority of members of the church are “buffet” mormons. And this isn’t just a mormon thing, “buffet” believers are very common among all the world religions. It is the very rare case when one believes ALL of it blindly. But as Bob already mentioned, I just don’t feel like 100% of the blame resides on the church. The church’s blame is higher than 50%, but it’s not 100%. I just feel like the individual does have some responsibility in all of this. I feel that way towards my current situation.

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