Ep 73 – For The Strength of Youth

Written by on May 4, 2014

What is the best way for parents to discuss sexuality with their children? Randy and Matt are joined by Kim, Jeremy, and Joshua to discuss modesty, dating, and sexuality as presented in the For The Strength of Youth pamphlet.

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    • Naomi   On   May 8, 2014 at 6:20 am

      Thanks so much for this! It’s exactly why I came to the comments section. My daughter is still LDS, and I’m hoping that I can at least get her to think about some of the crap in the pamphlet with this when she’s old enough to get one.

      • J   On   May 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm

        I have the opposite issue — my daughter is the first to leave the church. She already sees the crap in the pamphlet, and I’m using this podcast as a great way to discuss sex with her in a healthy way.

    • Randy_Snyder   On   May 5, 2014 at 10:02 pm

      In defense of Matt’s analogy, he is saying, I think, that we don’t put blame on the victim of car theft for having too nice of a car or nice features and we certainly don’t diminish the blame of the perp just bc he/she had expensive taste in the car they stole.

  1. moron_I   On   May 5, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    One of my favorite quotes you won’t see in “For the Strength of Youth” pamphlet comes from Woody Allen, “Don’t tell me masturbation is wrong…I’m having sex with someone I love”…..

  2. Polly Anna   On   May 6, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    I’ve only recently heard this trend among the internet Mormon types that it is inappropriate for underage kids to have a closed door one-on-one meeting with a Bishop. I never thought of it before until it became such a popular criticism in the bloggernacle. For my whole childhood I met with my Bishop one-on-one since I was 12 for temple trip and callings. It never occurred to me or my parents that that might be inappropriate at all. I also remember meeting with my principal and male teachers in their offices one-on-on as a teenager. It didn’t seem inappropriate at the time… Also, are you saying that schools should also have a policy where they don’t meet with students alone? Or is there a distinction because Bishops ask about the sex practices of minors and teachers and principals don’t. I don’t really like this idea that we must assume that all males are potential predators. Maybe it’s a safe policy, but it makes me feel bad for dudes. Does that just make us all paranoid and profiling of men? I don’t know? May be not. It’s better to be safe than sorry.
    The only weird conversation I can remember with a Bishop is him threatening my position as Laurels president if I didn’t break up with my boyfriend. He was like “My daughter doesn’t date exclusively. This could effect your leadership.” I was like “I was like are you threatening me? Lots of other girls have had steady boyfriends and served as presidents….” This is minor and I don’t really know if it counts as ecclesiastical abuse, but it seemed inappropriate to me to tell me to break up with my boyfriend when my parents liked him, and I knew lots of LDS kids who dated exclusively. Just because you’re a Kimball “don’t-kiss-until-you’re-over-the-alter” type doesn’t mean we all are….

  3. chrisalmond   On   May 7, 2014 at 1:25 am

    Randy, I notice you’ve seem to have tempered your…hot headedness(?) in the past few episodes..kudos!

  4. chrisalmond   On   May 7, 2014 at 1:27 am

    Check out this photo of BYU students from the 1930’s http://universe.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Students-1930.png Even though this was still a time when women could only wear pants on Saturdays, all but a few of the women are wearing sleeveless dresses! Illustrating perfectly how arbitrary the dress standards of the Church have been.
    It comes, interestingly, from this recent article on the history of the BYU Honor Code in The Daily Universe. http://universe.byu.edu/2014/04/08/a-history-of-the-byu-honor-code/

  5. J   On   May 12, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Thanks guys for this podcast. Really really good, and I’m going to use it as a starting point for more conversations with my children about healthy attitudes toward sex and dress / appearance.

  6. Orrin Dayne   On   April 26, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    The two-white-t-shirts guy is one way to spot the Mormon at Disneyland in July.
    BYU gear is the obvious way. I always wear by BYU gear to Disneyland and usually get a half dozen “Go Cougs!” and one “Go Utes!” per day.

  7. Natalie   On   October 13, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    As I listen to this podcast I am so grateful that this topic is being discussed. However I think there is a very big detail that needs to be addressed. That is using correct medical naming of body parts. Just by not naming things how they are can subconsciously be shameful to the child when it is not intended to be. My husband is becoming a certified sex therapist and this is a discussion we have with both sides of the family on a regular basis. We let them know that our future children may yell “I HAVE A PENIS!!!” in the store. just to prepare them.
    I am so glad that the conversation was very open and detailed about giving children the power of their own bodies.

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