Ep 255 – Carl the Casual Satanist: Episode 4 – Carl Calls his Mother

Written by on January 20, 2016

In this, the 4th episode of Carl the Casual Satanist, Carl calls his mother to confront her about the surprise visit he received in Episode 3. (Special thanks to Heather for participating.)

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    • Bob Caswell   On   January 21, 2016 at 2:37 am

      Maybe not? I’m an Infant and was the role of Dad, and I don’t know, nor do I care. I loved this episode! Remember that we just do this shit for fun as it comes to us and works for our collective schedules in our spare time.

      • jewelspice   On   January 21, 2016 at 9:44 am

        I adored it..you are all so fucking talented and intelligent it amazes me…thank you all.

      • Randy_Snyder   On   January 21, 2016 at 7:28 pm

        I’ll indulge you Mark. Allison distanced herself from our project bc she wanted to move on like her husband, our first ever listener essay contributor, from the constant obsessing about Mormonism. We now have a talented female Infant that has shown voice acting acumen (would you disagree?) so Jake went w her. Makes total sense to me.
        Funny, if it was an episode where Matt, the clumsy, loud uncle, was replaced by me, would you even have noticed?
        Heather is an Infant so get used to it but she doesn’t represent the entire female gender for us. Give us a little benefit of the doubt. I think we’ve earned it.

      • Mark Norris   On   January 21, 2016 at 8:14 pm

        Thanks for the explanation, Randy.
        To answer your question, yes I’d have noticed if they had switched the “Dad” role.

      • Mark Norris   On   January 21, 2016 at 12:21 pm

        Yea I get that this whole podcast is a hobby for you all. I just get the impression that Allison wasn’t even asked, and Jake went ahead and recast Mom as a vehicle for Heather, so you could put her up on the marquis again (Jake: Special thanks to Heather for participating”).
        Of course her performance was great. Allison would have been great, too. Again I feel like the addition of Heather has had the effect of pushing other women’s voices off the podcast, or at least they’re on less often.

      • Glenn   On   January 21, 2016 at 1:18 pm

        I nominate Mark Norris for IOT Highschool Prom Queen! Cuz everyone needs a little more highschool gossip drama in there life, right? No matter how ass backwards they get it. Every. Single. Time.

      • Mark Norris   On   January 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm

        I’ll take it.
        Even if I’m wrong, it’s what I’m feeling and thinking, so I’ll share it. Speculating on the inner workings of the podcast is half the fun of listening, Glenn.

      • Ryan Gregson   On   January 22, 2016 at 1:25 am

        In that case should we all put on our blue shirts and speculate why Mark has a weird hate-on for Heather?

      • Matt   On   January 22, 2016 at 7:18 pm

        Whoa, let’s settle down. I took Mark’s question as well intentioned. I’m impressed that Mark has listened enough to know Allison played Carl’s mom. Mark has clearly been a loyal listener. He made an observation. I didn’t take it as more. Carl should be a someone that brings us together. Btw, Allison rocks!

    • Allison   On   January 22, 2016 at 5:58 am

      Whoa, everybody. I’m gonna start out by saying that this is a reply to this whole conversation. And then some.
      Mark- thanks for thinking of me! I haven’t been on the podcast in a while, because as Randy said, it was like rehashing a failed relationship over and over. I needed to move on. I’m happy with that choice. The major downside of moving on from the podcast has been not being able to talk to these guys as much. I had a lot of fun and made some good friends. I wasn’t asked to be Carl’s mom again, but that’s just because I haven’t recorded with the Infants in a loooong time, and I told them I was stepping away from it. No harm, no foul. 🙂
      To everyone else- the tone of this conversation got kinda weird pretty fast. I have some ideas about that.
      The infants are probably a little tired of people giving them shit about their choices for women panelists. (This is conjecture. I really have no idea if it’s true, But I would be tired of it!) It’s like, have any guy they want on and usually nobody gives two shits. Whenever they have a woman on, people seem to come out of the woodwork with their approval or disapproval of said woman. Here’s the thing: we women don’t need anyone’s approval, and we don’t give a fuck about your disapproval. I’d venture to say that the guys probably feel the same way. Maybe they are a little defensive when a simple change of Carl’s mom occurs and it gets overblown as something deeper because of all that. It’s not some big drama behind the scenes. Here’s what happened:
      While I was never officially, ahem, “called” as an infant, I had a good run. I had a conversation with the guys about not recording anymore, but that status was never made public, because I wasn’t ever officially an infant or super consistent in recording. So I can understand Marks’ wonderings, especially if he’s listening to the episodes out of order.
      Lastly, PLEASE don’t make this into a competition among females. Women are socialized to see other women as competitors, and to be jealous of their successes instead of happy for each other–especially when it comes to the attention of men. This conversation is kinda starting to feel like it’s feeding into that. I don’t like where that’s headed.
      It’s unfortunate how the timing worked out, because Heather is rad. I don’t think the listeners could handle the awesomeness of the two of us on the podcast together. Your ears would get translated up to heaven or some shit.
      Anyone for the closing prayer? –Allison

      • Brother Jake   On   January 22, 2016 at 11:17 pm

        Thanks for chiming in, Allison. Hope everything is going well! Sorry about the drama–it honestly didn’t occur to me that this would be an issue.

    • Randy_Snyder   On   January 21, 2016 at 7:09 pm

      I was wondering about our penetration to Ghana. But seriously, thanks for posting! That is so cool Kwabena.

      • Kwabena   On   January 22, 2016 at 8:46 pm

        I am likely the only one but the internet is expanding, who knows ? A couple more years you might have to host a show down there!

      • Randy_Snyder   On   January 23, 2016 at 5:43 pm

        Hosting an IoT from Ghana? That is my wet dream. Should we do a Smackdown of your government?

      • Mumble Stumbles   On   January 23, 2016 at 5:50 pm

        Infants, make more! this was too real, but that has value, because of how hard it is to make our families hear how they sound and how our discussions or fits sound to outsiders. It’s art, even if all you did was copy and paste a real conversation and change all the references. The voice acting was spot on too. Every exemormon knows which conversation they have had that is exactly like this episode.

    • Saint Ralph   On   January 23, 2016 at 8:44 pm

      What’s captured here with scary perfection is the Parent/Grown-Child dynamic. The parent who KNOWS that they know what’s best not only for their child but for everyone on the planet and the child who’s been outside the bubble and knows the old paradigm isn’t true but can’t bring themselves to disappoint or totally disconnect from the parent.
      This applies beautifully to apostate or apostate-wannabe grown children with TBM parents, but listen to the “Duane Phones Home” segments of A Prairie Home Companion sometime. The interaction between Duane and his mom is cringe-worthy. As has been alluded to here: way too close to home.

  1. Sheri OhSoVery   On   January 21, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    I agree with Bob. They, IOT gang, do this for fun. I’m just glad I’m the recipient of their FUN! Love you guys…..and Heather. She rocks!

  2. AxelDC   On   January 21, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    That was perfect, especially the crying at the end. This was way too close to when I came out to my mom. By the time I told them I’d left the church, they were already expecting it.

  3. Scott B   On   January 22, 2016 at 12:54 am

    Thank you for another great episode! Like Zelph and Brother Jake, this one was uncomfortably close to home for me. Thankfully, it was still fun.

  4. ART   On   January 22, 2016 at 1:28 am

    I hope she referred him to Staniel C Peterson. He knows all the difficult issues in Satanism and is still very faithful.

  5. Seth L.   On   January 22, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    That got heavy quick. Geeze! At first it was funny and then it just got hard to listen to. Glad you made it. Very spot on.

    • Brother Jake   On   January 22, 2016 at 11:19 pm

      I just had my wife listen to it and she said something similar. This one definitely wasn’t as humorous as the others, but I figured I’d err on the more somber side here. Don’t worry–they won’t all be like this!

  6. Pink-lead   On   January 22, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    This episode worked up my paranoia. Not with the folks, that’s already in the open. But I had a long talk with my bishop a week or two ago. And yesterday I got a call.
    Bro.____? (pronounced incorrectly)
    Um, yeah.
    This is the missionaries.
    Ok (why the Hell are you calling me I hope the bishop didn’t set this up)
    Are you still good with us coming to dinner?
    I don’t know….
    Turns out there is another family with the same last name in the ward who had made the appointment. Like I said paranoid.

  7. Mumble Stumbles   On   January 23, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    I’m going to echo the other comments and say this was way real at the end, too real to laugh, even though up to that point it was hilarious. This was almost question for question, at least in tone, the order of the conversation I had with my own mother, and that last part is the part that tears me up. Doesn’t keep me from criticizing the church: just not around her anymore.

  8. larryj   On   January 29, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    VIOLENT, INVOLUNTARY CRINGE!! This is exactly the way my wife and I treated our son who began to disbelieve when he was a 25 year old, married, returned missionary attending BYU.

    • Brother Jake   On   January 29, 2016 at 9:19 pm

      Oh, man! This is great. You’re definitely the first commenter to relate to this episode from Carl’s mom’s perspective. Did you send people to your son’s house without telling him? Or were you referring more to the general strategy of “stall him by getting him to say he’s still weighing the evidence”?

      • larryj   On   January 30, 2016 at 12:05 am

        We called our Stake President who was a friend and lived in our ward. We told him that we were unable to answer the difficult questions from my son had and wondered if there was someone more in tune who could. The Stake President hooked us up with a prominent church apologist. Next, my TBM wife and I and my son and his TBM wife met every Sunday evening for 2-3 hours for several months at the apologist’s house. My son asked his questions and the apologist answered. The TBMs all nodded in agreement to the apologists (in retrospect) convoluted mental gymnastics and my son rolled his eyes because he could see it was all bullshit. This “reparative therapy” solidified my son’s understanding that the LDS church history and doctrine was totally made up. Unbeknownst to his broken-hearted parents, a few years later he sketched and posted online some of the answers to his questions that he researched independently without the aid of an church apologist tutor. He showed me this when I came out this year. http://www.imagesoftherestoration.org/blog/

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